Comments on: What’s that Wayne Pacelle really up to?

By: Local Humane

Local Humane — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:19:11 +0000

This is an excellent post and objectively looks at HSUS. We reread it a few times and this part is what caught our eye:

“HSUS has not become the mammoth non-profit that it is by proclaiming it provides shelter for America’s homeless pets.”

We would challenge this point for two reasons. First, HSUS has implied direct benefit to shelter animals across the nation in its marketing. Aside from Wayne Pacelle’s remark, has it ever advertised that it does NOT operate or fund your local shelter? No. The second point would be in the results. The vast majority of Americans believe that HSUS operates and funds local shelters. HSUS understands this perception, and benefits from it.

These points are not intended to say HSUS is good or bad. People may decide that on their own. What’s most important is providing accurate information such that people have an informed choice.

By: vet

vet — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 05:48:30 +0000

here’s the goal, jtime for pacelle, 10 directors,10 officers from hsus. if i you are one of them , i’ll make a deal with doj or with gamerooster…

that ’s what we are talking about and it’s spreading like wildfire!

By: Tracy

Tracy — Sun, 31 May 2009 21:21:46 +0000

What on Earth are these “gamefowl” people talking about? Sounds like you guys don’t even know what human rights are.

Joe, nice post!

By: vets

vets — Sun, 31 May 2009 18:17:44 +0000

To: Pacelle,Directors/officers of HSUS.

PLease be advised that you and your officers are VIOLATING HUMAN RIGHTS LAWS against the Gamefowl sport members and we ask you to make an Ammendment to Laws you sponsor against Gamefowl CULTURAL Sport ASAP!
Decriminalize,Tax it, regulate in agri/rural areas and $ 1 per chicken be donated to your org.

By: mel

mel — Sun, 31 May 2009 17:00:40 +0000

It’s a VIOLATION of HUMAN RIGHTS! The anti-gamefowl sport law sponsored by terrorist extremist hsus thru lies,deceit and propaganda.

A Major Sponosor of animal rights Terrorist! if you are a supporter of an organization that supports and financially sponosors Terrorism, that makes you what? a Terrorist?

Facts; The Newest FBI # 1 Terrorist list is a ” ANIMAL RIGHTS activist !

I guess there’s nothing wrong with Terrorist extremsit hsus & their militias, in VIOLATIONS of HUMAN RIGHTS and TERRORISM!

Facts; a Breeding grounds for Terrrorist Extremist, Ex- Convicts, and MAJORITY of EMPLOYEES and Volunteers either have MENTAL and EMOTIONAL issues that are NOT FIT to roam our communities with police powers! That is pretty scary!
This is based on a recent investigation by local media about $ 4.3 million of TAXPAYERS money was stolen from the City of san mateo,ca., by overbilling the city with bogus fees and NON-performed services by hsus. Imagine how much TAXPAYERS money they are scamming from every city, nationwide? ibet it’s in multi -million FRAUD!

There is nothing wrong with terrorist extremist hsus & their militias! yeah right! in your extremist dreams !

By: Anne'n'Spencer

Anne'n'Spencer — Sun, 31 May 2009 02:57:28 +0000

I guess HSUS doesn’t differ from other large organizations. You have to take the good and the bad into consideration and make your choice. There are things that they do that I think are wonderful, such as their advocacy for food animals. They take other actions I deplore–passionately–such as the stance on executing pit bulls. At this point, the good they do outweighs the bad, and I feel free to speak out against any of their positions I disagree with, without degenerating into innuendo and general smarminess.

I’m holding off on the Michael Vick controversy. What he did was unspeakable, and I don’t think he spent enough time in prison for it. On the other hand, it is good sometimes to believe that human beings can actually grow and change. Frankly, Mr. Vick’s actions in general have never made me believe that he was one of the sharpest knives in the drawer. If he’s play-acting, we and the HSUS will probably know that pretty quickly. If he’s genuinely sorry for the suffering he caused, he can partially atone for it by exerting his influence to stop dog fighting.

By: Eighteenpaws

Eighteenpaws — Sat, 30 May 2009 19:20:30 +0000

Wow, what a lot of hoopla and anger. I have read OMD’s articles and comments, as well as the current blogs of HSUS and other sources. Personally, I knew that there was zero connection between HSUS and our local humane societies. Local operations are shelters for pet adoption, saviors to injured or abandoned wildlife as well as investigators and protectionists of local animal abuse. While these themes resound throughout HSUS, the primary goal of HSUS is to highlight, educate and eradicate through legal means the greater abuse of animals in labs, or hunted as trophies, or sold for food, and so on. They also organize rescue squads and provide resources for pets and animals alongside the Red Cross when environmental emergencies strike. Exactly what is the issue here? HSUS members are carnivores, vegetarians and vegans. Democrats and Republicans. Liberals and conservatives. They are people who respect and cherish animals in varying levels from gentle compassion through radical activism. I have met Wayne Pacelle and attended seminars with him on several occasions, and my impression is that he is about as selfless and animal-passionate as they come. For me personally, I don’t always agree with the actions of HSUS, but I continuously applaud their relentless pursuit of rights for all animals, birds, marine life. The financials of HSUS are easily accessible and nothing to be ashamed of for their activism-to-administrative expense ratios. As for the CCF, I can find nothing in their website that is admirable nor convincing of their honesty and compassion.

By: Mary Haight

Mary Haight — Sat, 30 May 2009 16:10:58 +0000

Yes, John, there is that fact about all of us in animal welfare–we don’t agree on how to resolve stubborn problems in the industry, so it’s like herding cats.

HSUS has what I have seen as conflicting interests that create a rather ugly juxtaposition at the worst moments possible. Take the meeting with Best Friends et.al in Vegas to resolve longstanding policy that led them to always recommend death to Pit Bulls from fight ring busts. After what was perceived to be a nascent shift in policy by all, they were found to have been working with an alderman crafting language on a breed ban…what?!? is what we howled. And the alderman’s stance was not one that had popular support which made matters much, much worse.

I was working on a story about their “End Dogfighting” program and was following up on some details when I was passed to John Goodwin and we ended up speaking briefly about Mandatory Spay Neuter. The conversation took a turn and I ended up telling him how that mess in Indiana versus Las Vegas looked to many. That’s when he told me they are often asked(I’m sure he meant “hired”?)to check legislation for any mishandling of animals. I know they are against breed laws so there’s the crux of that conflict. That’s a line I would not be walking, but that’s just me.

Since HSUS chooses to work these issues at the front end rather than wait until legislation appears to have every chance of passing, it would be smart to operate in total daylight on any such “job” with a press release.

There are other conflicts like testifying against a No Kill city in San Francisco…and the beat goes on.

By: Carl

Carl — Sat, 30 May 2009 16:00:00 +0000

The WSB-TV report was NOT “retracted” … Wayne is lying. FAIL.

By: Luke Thomas

Luke Thomas — Sat, 30 May 2009 12:22:06 +0000

Such as the undercover investigation of farm factory cruelty and puppy mills, The Humane Society of the United States DOES do some good things-and legislation is the very core of helping fight animal cruelty. However, I have a *BIG* problem with HSUS (Humane Society of the United States) wanting Michael Vick as a spokesperson-when a USDA report revealed Vick has been throwing in family pets into dog fighting rings, watching them get torn to pieces and eviscerated ALIVE-because he thought it amusing. Vick also lied to the FBI initially but once confronted he failed his polygraph test, he confessed to taking part in hanging pit bulls alive until dead-which is a very painful death. Also body slamming them until dead. These activities have been going on for many years, so it is doubtful how a few months in prison can “change” him. Vick just wants to play NFL again: The NFL will hire a DOG FIGHTER, and America will cheer a DOG FIGHTER. America’s young will want to be like Vick and get their own pit bulls and not for pets-but the association of a dog fighter with the prestigious NFL to be a role model for the nation’s young-to become thugs and future dog fighters of America. God help us all.